Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani said Sunday in interviews on CNN and ABC that the president's legal team is requiring evidence that indicates a possible crime on Trump's part before before agreeing to an interview with Mueller.
But Sunday on "Meet the Press", Giuliani told Chuck Todd that Trump's team has "pretty much decided" that it won't sit down with Mueller, unless the special counsel can prove that there's "some basis for this investigation".
In an interview last week with Stephanopoulos, Cohen acknowledged that he soon could face criminal charges in an ongoing Federal Bureau of Investigation probe of his finances and business dealings. "As long as he tells the truth, we're home free", said Rudy to George Stephanopoulos.
Cohen has not been charged with any crimes but is now under federal investigation in the Southern District of NY for possible bank fraud.
Kim Wehle, a former assistant USA attorney and former associate prosecutor for the independent counsel in the Whitewater investigation, warned on Monday that the U.S.is on the "fast track to tyranny" if President Donald Trump refuses to testify in special counsel Robert Mueller's Russian Federation investigation. But any testimony would come before Cohen's decision to cooperate, and would be too late to implicate the president, he said.
Earlier this year Giuliani had said a meeting could take place in weeks; he then extended that time frame.
On CNN's "State of the Union", host Dana Bash asked if Giuliani was going back on his past comments that he didn't think Cohen would "flip" on Trump. Cohen told Stephanopoulos in an exclusive interview last week that his "first loyalty" was to his family and country.
Giuliani, the top lawyer on Trump's legal team, told Fox News on Saturday he is asking Mueller for a "factual basis for the investigation" before the team considers allowing Trump to be interviewed by Mueller's team. When pressed, Guiliani maintained there was no wrongdoing by the president, and that the truth could therefore not harm him.
"If he wants to cooperate, I think it's great", Giuliani said. He said an interview with Mueller could be an "attempt to trap him in perjury". "We can't find an incriminating anything", Giuliani replied. Cohen told the New York Times he paid adult actress Stormy Daniels $130,000 out of his personal account to keep her from revealing details of her alleged affair with the president.
These sources would not comment on whether Cohen's attorney, Guy Petrillo, has been meeting with prosecutors in NY and referred inquiries about any potential case to Petrillo. Cohen's going to face the full firepower of the armed and operational Trump-crony battle station if he rolls over.